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Send message Joined: 13 Aug 22 Posts: 10 Credit: 12,168,735 RAC: 0 |
I used "deepl" for translation, I'm german, excuse me. No, it's one question, why the project is not synchronised for days with the BOINCstats side, there I'm missing roundabout 5.7 million points. |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
I used "deepl" for translation, I'm german, excuse me.Ok. Look what I see from sources open to everyone: 1. https://gerasim.boinc.ru/users/showUser.aspx?userid=20339 Total credit: 118,417,582 2. https://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=users&proj=ger&offset=72 77 72 vonboedefeldt 118,392,265 3. https://boincstats.com/stats/64/user/list/ 78 vonboedefeldt 110,737,620 We see that the difference between Gerasim's data and Free-DC's is: 118,417,582 - 118,392,265 = 25,317 Where 25,317 is normal, as I believe the Free-DC server fetches data once a day. Therefore, it lags slightly behind reality. We also see that the difference between Gerasim's data and Boincstats's is: 118,417,582 - 110,737,620 = 7,679,962 And Boincstats didn't take these 7,679,962 points from our server. Why isn't Boincstats fetching data from us? This is a question for Boincstats, not us. I previously suggested why this is happening. Therefore, questions should be addressed to the Boincstats admins. I hope I've explained this clearly. (All figures above are current as of today. They may change slightly tomorrow.) |
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Send message Joined: 13 Aug 22 Posts: 10 Credit: 12,168,735 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for your answer. |
Bill FSend message Joined: 27 Sep 21 Posts: 25 Credit: 4,006,055 RAC: 4,198 |
As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location. Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basis Last update user XML 2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old) If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expand Respectfully Bill F Dallas TX In October of 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date.
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Send message Joined: 13 Aug 22 Posts: 10 Credit: 12,168,735 RAC: 0 |
I asked for in the Boinstats' shoutcast, and got the following:"Bill: @vonboedefeldt01 ,, partial truth, They are updating their in house stat's but not updating the standard pick up point" |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location.You understand the process absolutely correctly. Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basisAbsolutely right! In this example, we see that their script (or some program) shows "when exactly" there was an update on the boincstats server.Last update user XML 2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old) If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expandEarlier in the thread, I wrote about a possible cause of this: a blockage of the DPI equipment. Is this problem solvable? Yes. It is. But for that to happen, the guys at boincstats would have to be involved. You understand that when data is exchanged, there are always two parties (A and B). Party A provides the data. Party B receives the data. If Party B doesn't receive the data, then only Party B can answer "why isn't it receiving the data?" |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
I asked for in the Boinstats' shoutcast, and got the following:"Bill: @vonboedefeldt01 ,, partial truth, They are updating their in house stat's but not updating the standard pick up point" Is this public information? If so, can you provide a link? (Even if the information is in your native language) |
Bill FSend message Joined: 27 Sep 21 Posts: 25 Credit: 4,006,055 RAC: 4,198 |
As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location.You understand the process absolutely correctly.Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basisAbsolutely right!In this example, we see that their script (or some program) shows "when exactly" there was an update on the boincstats server.Last update user XML 2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old)If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expandEarlier in the thread, I wrote about a possible cause of this: a blockage of the DPI equipment. Again as I understand it .... in the standard BOINC world the Project "Party A" only creates the Data, commonly updated Daily.... Which they the Project store at a standard or common addressable location within the Project. Statistical sites and groups that use the Daily data "Party B's look at and copy from these locations inside the Project. So technically Party A never "sends" anything Respectfully Bill F |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Yes. Absolutely correct! |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
It looks like something's been fixed on Boincstats; some of the statistics have been updated: Last update user XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (192 days 18:41:16 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old) https://boincstats.com/stats/64/project/detail/ |
Bill FSend message Joined: 27 Sep 21 Posts: 25 Credit: 4,006,055 RAC: 4,198 |
It looks like something's been fixed on Boincstats; some of the statistics have been updated: Well two out of three Stats are current.... one is still 192 days old Thanks Bill F |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Yes. I see that. But I can't say when they'll be able to fix it. |
Bill FSend message Joined: 27 Sep 21 Posts: 25 Credit: 4,006,055 RAC: 4,198 |
Yes. Well if you can get someone in the Project to be aware that would help... |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Oh, yes! So far, I'm seeing some progress. Right now, we see another attempt to read our stats (for teams): https://boincstats.com/stats/64/project/detail/ Last update user XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (18:27:16 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (193 days 10:27:17 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-18 21:58:01 UTC (02:27:16 old)We see difference: Last update team XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)and Last update team XML 2026-06-18 21:58:01 UTC (02:27:16 old) 2026-06-18 05:58:01 and 2026-06-18 21:58:01 Although there haven't been any replies to this thread for a month: https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1 |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Warning! A fan on the server has failed. Replacements will be made. Therefore, the server may be offline for a while! |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Some news: 1. The reason why fresh data isn't appearing on Boincstat has now been reliably determined. The admin's response is here: https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1 We are working to resolve this issue. 2. 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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
The crunch points lost in April have now been restored. The corresponding points have also been added to teams and countries. The statistics servers will download the updated information only tomorrow. Happy crunching everyone! Gerasim team. |
Bill FSend message Joined: 27 Sep 21 Posts: 25 Credit: 4,006,055 RAC: 4,198 |
Are there any improvements pending on age of the Credit stat's for Export ? Last update user XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (9 days 13:49:38 old) Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (202 days 05:49:39 old) Last update team XML 2026-06-27 17:58:00 UTC (01:49:39 old) Normally most Projects generate daily updates. Respectfully Bill F Dallas TX |
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Send message Joined: 18 Nov 25 Posts: 63 Credit: 3,917,220 RAC: 48,939 |
Yes. Just a reminder. Once again. That current statistics are generated on our server regularly, every day. This is clearly visible on the Free-DS statistics server. The boincstats server CANNOT regularly retrieve our statistics. Why? Read the link carefully: https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1 Where it says, and I quote: 2026-06-20 08:19:42This actually confirms my assumption in the post: https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/forum_thread.php?id=667&postid=4312 Therefore, I repeat: work is underway in this direction. At the moment, I have provided the guys at boincstats with the necessary information. I don't yet know when exactly they will be able to do this. |
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Send message Joined: 21 May 18 Posts: 28 Credit: 85,002,046 RAC: 0 |
Are there any improvements pending on age of the Credit stat's for Export ? I'm not sure he fully comprehends what you have tried multiple times to tell him. |