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Message 4314 - Posted: 14 Jun 2026, 8:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 4313.  

I used "deepl" for translation, I'm german, excuse me.
No, it's one question, why the project is not synchronised for days with the BOINCstats side, there I'm missing roundabout 5.7 million points.
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Message 4319 - Posted: 16 Jun 2026, 14:10:29 UTC - in response to Message 4314.  
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I used "deepl" for translation, I'm german, excuse me.
No, it's one question, why the project is not synchronised for days with the BOINCstats side, there I'm missing roundabout 5.7 million points.
Ok.

Look what I see from sources open to everyone:

1. https://gerasim.boinc.ru/users/showUser.aspx?userid=20339
Total credit: 118,417,582

2. https://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=users&proj=ger&offset=72
77 72 vonboedefeldt 118,392,265

3. https://boincstats.com/stats/64/user/list/
78 vonboedefeldt 110,737,620

We see that the difference between Gerasim's data and Free-DC's is: 118,417,582 - 118,392,265 = 25,317
Where 25,317 is normal, as I believe the Free-DC server fetches data once a day. Therefore, it lags slightly behind reality.

We also see that the difference between Gerasim's data and Boincstats's is: 118,417,582 - 110,737,620 = 7,679,962
And Boincstats didn't take these 7,679,962 points from our server.

Why isn't Boincstats fetching data from us?
This is a question for Boincstats, not us.

I previously suggested why this is happening.
Therefore, questions should be addressed to the Boincstats admins.

I hope I've explained this clearly.

(All figures above are current as of today.
They may change slightly tomorrow.)
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Message 4320 - Posted: 16 Jun 2026, 15:58:48 UTC - in response to Message 4319.  

Thank you for your answer.
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Message 4321 - Posted: 16 Jun 2026, 16:43:20 UTC - in response to Message 4319.  

As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location.

Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basis

Last update user XML 2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old)
Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old)
Last update team XML 2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old)

If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expand

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Message 4322 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 4:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 4319.  

I asked for in the Boinstats' shoutcast, and got the following:"Bill: @vonboedefeldt01 ,, partial truth, They are updating their in house stat's but not updating the standard pick up point"
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Message 4323 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 17:51:33 UTC - in response to Message 4321.  

As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location.
You understand the process absolutely correctly.
Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basis
Absolutely right!
Last update user XML	              2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old)
Last update host XML	              2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old)
Last update team XML      	      2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old)
In this example, we see that their script (or some program) shows "when exactly" there was an update on the boincstats server.
If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expand

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Bill F
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Earlier in the thread, I wrote about a possible cause of this: a blockage of the DPI equipment.
Is this problem solvable?

Yes.
It is.

But for that to happen, the guys at boincstats would have to be involved.

You understand that when data is exchanged, there are always two parties (A and B).
Party A provides the data.
Party B receives the data.

If Party B doesn't receive the data, then only Party B can answer "why isn't it receiving the data?"
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Message 4324 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 17:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 4322.  

I asked for in the Boinstats' shoutcast, and got the following:"Bill: @vonboedefeldt01 ,, partial truth, They are updating their in house stat's but not updating the standard pick up point"

Is this public information?
If so, can you provide a link?
(Even if the information is in your native language)
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Message 4326 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 1:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 4323.  
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As I understand the process .... all Projects populate a standard location with their statistics information and the various sites that use the date for what ever need get the data from the "standard" location.
You understand the process absolutely correctly.
Here are the Time stamps for the Location ... They indicate that it appears some of the Data is not being updated on a routine basis
Absolutely right!
Last update user XML	              2026-05-29 09:58:01 UTC (18 days 02:43:17 old)
Last update host XML	              2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (190 days 22:43:18 old)
Last update team XML      	      2026-06-16 09:58:01 UTC (02:43:17 old)
In this example, we see that their script (or some program) shows "when exactly" there was an update on the boincstats server.
If I am incorrect maybe someone with more knowledge can expand

Respectfully

Bill F
Dallas TX
Earlier in the thread, I wrote about a possible cause of this: a blockage of the DPI equipment.
Is this problem solvable?

Yes.
It is.

But for that to happen, the guys at boincstats would have to be involved.

You understand that when data is exchanged, there are always two parties (A and B).
Party A provides the data.
Party B receives the data.

If Party B doesn't receive the data, then only Party B can answer "why isn't it receiving the data?"


Again as I understand it .... in the standard BOINC world the Project "Party A" only creates the Data, commonly updated Daily.... Which they the Project store at a standard or common addressable location within the Project.

Statistical sites and groups that use the Daily data "Party B's look at and copy from these locations inside the Project.

So technically Party A never "sends" anything

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Message 4327 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 9:23:55 UTC - in response to Message 4326.  


Again as I understand it .... in the standard BOINC world the Project "Party A" only creates the Data, commonly updated Daily.... Which they the Project store at a standard or common addressable location within the Project.

Statistical sites and groups that use the Daily data "Party B's look at and copy from these locations inside the Project.

So technically Party A never "sends" anything

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Bill F

Yes.
Absolutely correct!
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Message 4328 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 11:44:26 UTC
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It looks like something's been fixed on Boincstats; some of the statistics have been updated:
Last update user XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)
Last update host XML	2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (192 days 18:41:16 old)
Last update team XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)

https://boincstats.com/stats/64/project/detail/
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Message 4329 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 17:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 4328.  

It looks like something's been fixed on Boincstats; some of the statistics have been updated:
Last update user XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)
Last update host XML	2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (192 days 18:41:16 old)
Last update team XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)

https://boincstats.com/stats/64/project/detail/



Well two out of three Stats are current.... one is still 192 days old

Thanks
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Message 4331 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 18:11:03 UTC - in response to Message 4329.  

Yes.
I see that.
But I can't say when they'll be able to fix it.
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Message 4332 - Posted: 18 Jun 2026, 19:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 4331.  

Yes.
I see that.
But I can't say when they'll be able to fix it.


Well if you can get someone in the Project to be aware that would help...
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Message 4333 - Posted: 19 Jun 2026, 5:36:35 UTC - in response to Message 4332.  

Oh, yes!

So far, I'm seeing some progress.
Right now, we see another attempt to read our stats (for teams):
https://boincstats.com/stats/64/project/detail/
Last update user XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (18:27:16 old)
Last update host XML	2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (193 days 10:27:17 old)
Last update team XML	2026-06-18 21:58:01 UTC (02:27:16 old)
We see difference:
Last update team XML	2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (02:41:15 old)
and
Last update team XML	2026-06-18 21:58:01 UTC (02:27:16 old)

2026-06-18 05:58:01 and 2026-06-18 21:58:01

Although there haven't been any replies to this thread for a month:
https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1
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Message 4335 - Posted: 26 Jun 2026, 10:27:14 UTC

Warning! A fan on the server has failed.
Replacements will be made.
Therefore, the server may be offline for a while!
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Message 4336 - Posted: 27 Jun 2026, 0:49:36 UTC

Some news:
1. The reason why fresh data isn't appearing on Boincstat has now been reliably determined.
The admin's response is here:
https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1
We are working to resolve this issue.

2. A list of all crunchers with lost points has been prepared:
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It will be applied in a few days.
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Message 4337 - Posted: 27 Jun 2026, 15:47:22 UTC

The crunch points lost in April have now been restored.
The corresponding points have also been added to teams and countries.
The statistics servers will download the updated information only tomorrow.

Happy crunching everyone!
Gerasim team.
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Message 4338 - Posted: 27 Jun 2026, 20:51:15 UTC

Are there any improvements pending on age of the Credit stat's for Export ?

Last update user XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (9 days 13:49:38 old)
Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (202 days 05:49:39 old)
Last update team XML 2026-06-27 17:58:00 UTC (01:49:39 old)

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Bill F
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Message 4339 - Posted: 27 Jun 2026, 22:08:49 UTC - in response to Message 4338.  

Yes.

Just a reminder. Once again.
That current statistics are generated on our server regularly, every day.

This is clearly visible on the Free-DS statistics server.
The boincstats server CANNOT regularly retrieve our statistics.

Why?
Read the link carefully:
https://boincstats.com/forum/10/8211,1

Where it says, and I quote:
2026-06-20 08:19:42
Different from Free-DC, our hoster Hetzner has issues around Russian or Russian-hosted projects, or those with Russian involvement.
They don't seem to like connections from us, so apart from changing our hoster we can't do anything about this.
Obviously, we don't want to change our hoster, else we'd have already done just that.
This actually confirms my assumption in the post:
https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/forum_thread.php?id=667&postid=4312
Therefore, I repeat: work is underway in this direction.

At the moment, I have provided the guys at boincstats with the necessary information.

I don't yet know when exactly they will be able to do this.
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Message 4340 - Posted: 28 Jun 2026, 1:25:49 UTC - in response to Message 4338.  
Last modified: 28 Jun 2026, 1:26:16 UTC

Are there any improvements pending on age of the Credit stat's for Export ?

Last update user XML 2026-06-18 05:58:01 UTC (9 days 13:49:38 old)
Last update host XML 2025-12-07 13:58:00 UTC (202 days 05:49:39 old)
Last update team XML 2026-06-27 17:58:00 UTC (01:49:39 old)

Normally most Projects generate daily updates.

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Bill F
Dallas TX


I'm not sure he fully comprehends what you have tried multiple times to tell him.
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