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Message 3701 - Posted: 5 May 2024, 16:09:12 UTC

it's not necessary to send the v3.0 32-bit app to 64-bit hosts. they run more than twice as long, wasting time.

I see that there is a small fraction of FLOPS running this app and it would be interesting how many of that small fraction is actually running a 32-bit OS and not just erroneously being sent to some 64-bit hosts. probably not a big loss to just remove this app altogether so it's not even an option.
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Message 3704 - Posted: 6 May 2024, 20:18:09 UTC - in response to Message 3701.  

it's not necessary to send the v3.0 32-bit app to 64-bit hosts. they run more than twice as long, wasting time.

I see that there is a small fraction of FLOPS running this app and it would be interesting how many of that small fraction is actually running a 32-bit OS and not just erroneously being sent to some 64-bit hosts. probably not a big loss to just remove this app altogether so it's not even an option.


The server is setup so that it only sends the 32bit app to 32bit hosts. There were some users with 32bit hosts that wanted me to retain the app, so I did. If you have evidence that a 64bit host is being sent the 32bit app then let me know and I will look into it further.
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Message 3706 - Posted: 7 May 2024, 20:17:06 UTC - in response to Message 3704.  
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thousands were sent to a few of my hosts, which are all 64-bit. I'm sure many other people have the same issue whether they realize it or not. i was actually sent both apps but the majority of them were being assigned the 3.0 32-bit app instead of 4.0 until I just deleted the app from my project folder and aborted all the 3.0 tasks.

one such example: https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/result.php?resultid=222507653

and many more if you look at the tasks from this host.
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Message 3707 - Posted: 8 May 2024, 4:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 3706.  

thousands were sent to a few of my hosts, which are all 64-bit. I'm sure many other people have the same issue whether they realize it or not. i was actually sent both apps but the majority of them were being assigned the 3.0 32-bit app instead of 4.0 until I just deleted the app from my project folder and aborted all the 3.0 tasks.

one such example: https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/result.php?resultid=222507653

and many more if you look at the tasks from this host.

I'm not sure why it's doing that. I double checked and I have the following parameter set in the config.xml:

<prefer_primary_platform> 0|1 </prefer_primary_platform>
    Send hosts app versions for their primary platform if one exists; e.g. if a host is 64-bit, don't send it a 32-bit CPU version if a 64-bit CPU version exists. Use this option only if you're sure that your 64-bit versions are faster than the 32-bit versions. 
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Message 3708 - Posted: 8 May 2024, 12:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 3707.  

I'm not sure either (save for a typo or syntax error) but it's happening. a few other people I talked with had the same problem and were unaware that the 3.0 app was 32-bit and only realized the slow runtimes when I brought it up.
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Message 3711 - Posted: 12 May 2024, 9:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 3707.  
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I'm not sure why it's doing that. I double checked and I have the following parameter set in the config.xml:

<prefer_primary_platform> 0|1 </prefer_primary_platform>
    Send hosts app versions for their primary platform if one exists; e.g. if a host is 64-bit, don't send it a 32-bit CPU version if a 64-bit CPU version exists. Use this option only if you're sure that your 64-bit versions are faster than the 32-bit versions. 


In the past this was once caused by download errors: https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/forum_thread.php?id=483#3009

But if you suspect a bug turn on debugging and post to the boinc_dev mailinglist with a bug report.
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Message 3712 - Posted: 12 May 2024, 15:54:11 UTC - in response to Message 3711.  


I'm not sure why it's doing that. I double checked and I have the following parameter set in the config.xml:

<prefer_primary_platform> 0|1 </prefer_primary_platform>
    Send hosts app versions for their primary platform if one exists; e.g. if a host is 64-bit, don't send it a 32-bit CPU version if a 64-bit CPU version exists. Use this option only if you're sure that your 64-bit versions are faster than the 32-bit versions. 


In the past this was once caused by download errors: https://numberfields.asu.edu/NumberFields/forum_thread.php?id=483#3009

But if you suspect a bug turn on debugging and post to the boinc_dev mailinglist with a bug report.


Oh yeah, thanks for helping me to remember.

I think I will disable the 32bit app, but first I will determine if there are any 32bit hosts still using it.
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